Dear Joely: I Punished My Daughter for Sending Nudes. Then She Found My Video.
After punishing her fourteen-year-old daughter for sending nudes, one mother is forced into a humiliating reckoning when her daughter discovers a private video of her own. Joely considers hypocrisy, apology and the difficult work of repair.
She reacted to her daughter’s humiliation with fury and punishment. Then her unlocked phone delivered a brutal lesson in empathy.
Dear Joely,
I live in the south-west of England. I have a daughter (14) whose sending of ‘nudes’ to her one-time boyfriend was exposed at school in the most unpleasant way.
She found out the hard way that (a) the male of the species is not always to be trusted and (b) there are consequences for her actions.
I wish I could say that I was understanding and supportive when I found out about this (by being summoned to the headteacher's office), but my first reaction was judgmental and punitive. I grounded her for two weeks and confiscated her phone.
Obviously this meant that we were at each other's throats for days and that she had to deal, not only with the mortification and heartbreak of her situation, but with her banshee of a mother.
I am embarrassed by how I handled it and wish I could press rewind.
This next bit, I actually find hard to write and am only doing so because I am in bits, because you guarantee anonymity and because I genuinely need direction.
I have been dating now and then on the apps over the past year or so. I've had some fun times but mostly, I find it very disappointing.
A few weeks ago, I 'met' a man through a phone app. There was something I found very attractive about him and after a short back and forth, our messages got saucier. Before long we were sexting.
I found it fun and a bit of a turn-on.
One day my daughter was asking me why I hadn't commented on a link she'd sent me about something or another. I yelled out from the next room that I hadn't received it.
She picked up my phone from the bench, which was unlocked because I was playing music from it, and next thing, she's into my WhatsApp account, which is where I'd been chatting to the guy I mentioned.
I had sent him a short video in which I was naked, but worse, I was doing something he had asked me to do - I won't go into details but let's just say it was very much adult content.
Next thing, my daughter is in the doorway playing the video, the volume switched up to max. She stared at me and just said in a really cold voice "Nice, Mum. Really nice."
I could have died. I literally didn't have words. I took the phone from her, I'm sure I went as red as a beetroot, went into my room, locked the door and cried for several hours.
It's now the next day and I had to call in sick for work. I realise I'm the worst mother on the planet and I don't know what to do.
Yours,
Hypocrite doesn't begin to cover it
Dear Hypocrite Doesn’t Begin to Cover It,
First, you are not the worst mother on the planet. You are a frightened, mortified mother who reacted badly to her daughter’s crisis, then discovered, with almost theatrical precision, how easy it is to do the very thing you condemned.
That does not make your daughter’s situation and yours identical. She is fourteen. Her image was shared by someone she trusted, and she is dealing with the cruelty, humiliation and possible wider circulation of intimate material while still a child. Your video was made and sent as an adult, by choice, to another adult.
But it does mean you now understand something you did not understand in the headteacher’s office: intelligence, dignity and good judgement do not make anyone immune to desire, trust, impulsiveness or the belief that a private moment will remain private.
So go to your daughter.
Do not begin with an explanation of why your case is different. Do not make her comfort you. Do not ask her to pretend she did not see it.
Say something like:
“I am deeply embarrassed by what you saw, but I am more sorry for how I treated you. I reacted from fear and anger when you were already hurt and humiliated. I punished you when what you needed first was safety and support. I understand that now in a way I did not yesterday. I am sorry.”
Then listen.
She may be furious. She may laugh. She may say something designed to make you want to crawl under the floorboards. You will have to survive that without reaching for authority as a shield.
After that, deal with the practical part of her situation. Find out whether her images have been shared further, whether she is being bullied or threatened, and whether the school’s safeguarding lead is supporting her properly. In the UK, Childline’s Report Remove service can help young people under eighteen report sexual images of themselves online and seek their removal. If she is being threatened or made to feel unsafe, CEOP also accepts reports from young people and parents.
And yes, talk about phones, privacy and intimate images. But this time, have the conversation as two human beings who have both discovered that a glowing rectangle can turn private desire into public catastrophe with appalling speed.
You are not disqualified from motherhood because your daughter saw evidence that you are also a sexual adult. You are being offered something much more uncomfortable and useful: the chance to replace judgement with honesty.
Pressing rewind is unavailable.
Repair is not.
Yours, in second chances and considerably stronger passwords,
Joely
Dear Joely: Two Women Turn Every Friday Lunch into an Accounting Tribunal
A pleasant Friday lunch repeatedly descends into forensic accounting when two colleagues insist on paying separately. Cathy wants to know whether she is being unreasonable, or whether the bill-splitting palaver really is enough to spoil dessert.
The meal is pleasant. The company is good. Then the bill arrives and eight grown women begin reconstructing lunch from witness statements.
Dear Joely,
I’m sure this is a problem as old as time, but I am living it and it sh*%s me every time it happens. Perhaps you can help.
A group of six to eight women from my office goes out to a fairly basic restaurant for lunch on Fridays. It’s a good way for us to catch up without the interruptions of work. The boss knows and allows us a little more than the allocated hour, which is nice.
At the end, we get the bill. Most of us are perfectly happy to split it, except for two members of the group who insist on paying separately.
It always turns into a palaver while all the adding and subtracting goes on. Then, without fail, there is another mini-deliberation about the tip.
Usually, I’ve had a nice meal and enjoyed the conversation, but when this happens I can’t help throwing the stink-eye at the culprits. Last time, I think I even sighed out loud.
I should add that none of us drinks alcohol at these lunches, so it’s not as though these two Karens are being asked to subsidise somebody else’s bottle of wine.
Am I being unreasonable, or are they?
Yours billigerently,
Cathy
Dear Billigerent Cathy,
The problem is not that two women want to pay only for what they ordered. That is perfectly reasonable.
The problem is that eight hungry adults are attempting to perform forensic accounting beside a cooling plate of chips.
Splitting the bill works beautifully when everyone has spent roughly the same amount and nobody minds subsidising somebody else’s extra side of halloumi. Paying separately also works beautifully when the restaurant is told at the beginning, rather than when the bill arrives and Sandra suddenly begins reconstructing lunch from witness statements.
So next Friday, say this before anybody orders:
“Can we decide now whether we’re splitting the bill or paying individually? If anyone wants to pay separately, perhaps we can let the waiter know before we start.”
That is not rude. It is administration, and administration is best conducted before dessert.
As for the tip, agree on a percentage and divide it in the same manner as the meal. There should be no second summit meeting unless the waiter has performed CPR.
And retire the word “Karens”. They may be parsimonious, exacting or simply watching their money. You are allowed to dislike the palaver without turning two colleagues into a meme.
The stink-eye may remain, but deploy it sparingly. Like truffle oil, too much ruins lunch.
Yours, with the calculator already open,
Joely
Dear Joely: My Boyfriend Gave Me the Holiday Ick
A first holiday together reveals rather more than sunshine and sea views when one young woman discovers her boyfriend’s bathroom habits, untidiness and treatment of local people may be impossible to overlook.
Seven nights in Greece, one shared bathroom and rather more information about her boyfriend than she bargained for.
Dear Joely,
I've been in a relationship with a guy for almost eight months now. We met on Tinder and it felt like a great match from the start. He just seems to get me. We don't live together. I'm still with my folks, and he's in a share house.
This summer, we decided to go on holiday together.
It was the first time I'd been away with a boyfriend and also my first time in Greece. I'm 22 and he's 25. We went for a seven-night package, and it was all very exciting at first. The weather was beautiful, with nothing but sunshine each day.
On the other hand...
I'm not really sure how to put this delicately, so I'll just go for it. I didn't know that in Greece you can't flush the toilet paper. Not until I got there. I must be a bit of a princess because I found that unbearable.
Also, a couple of days in, I noticed I wasn't feeling quite as into my boyfriend anymore. I was starting to see things about him that I hadn't at home.
He would take his book into the toilet with him each morning and spend an hour in there. I'm not even kidding. I found this just gross. I didn't know how to approach the subject with him, so I let it be.
I also didn't like seeing his used toilet paper in there when I had to use the toilet. Just eeeeuuuwwww!
He was really messy with his stuff too. I like to keep a hotel room tidy. I asked him about this, but he didn't seem to take me seriously.
About halfway through, he got a stomach bug. This made the whole toilet situation worse. I kept finding myself torn between wanting to be caring and not being able to bear it, so I would leave the room and go for walks by myself. I took to using the public toilet rather than the one in our room.
It got pretty bad because I was even doing my makeup in a compact mirror rather than going to use the main bathroom mirror.
I'm sure I sound horrible, but even though there were a few other things that bugged me, this is the last thing I'm going to mention.
When he wasn't sick and we were exploring the island, I found he would talk down to the Greek people, as though he thought he was better than them. I was really embarrassed.
I just got quieter and quieter over the course of the trip. I suppose I went into myself. I also didn't fancy him much, and we didn't have a lot of sex, which is not like us.
Now we're home, and I don't know whether to try to put this whole sorry holiday behind us and get back to the way we were, or face the fact that I get on a lot better with him when we don't share accommodation. Which, to me, doesn't seem like it has much of a future in it.
I had the idea to write when I read that other letter to you about the ick. My situation seems a bit different, though.
I hope you can help.
Yours,
Cor-feeuuwww
Dear Cor-feeuuwww,
There is nothing quite like a first holiday together for stripping the soft lighting off a relationship.
At home, you see your boyfriend in portions. A dinner here, a sleepover there, perhaps a weekend if everyone is feeling brave. On holiday, there is nowhere for the ordinary machinery of a person to hide. You see how they pack, how they sulk, how they cope with illness, how they treat waiters, how long they occupy the bathroom and whether they regard the hotel floor as a wardrobe with better lighting.
So let us begin with the toilet paper.
You are not a monster because you found the Greek plumbing arrangements revolting. You were unfamiliar with them, sharing a small bathroom with a man who apparently regarded it as both lavatory and reading room, and then he became ill. That is enough to test even the most fragrant of romances.
The hour-long morning bathroom occupation would irritate many people. The fact that you did not know how to raise it says something too. After eight months, you should be able to say, “Darling, I love you, but I also need access to the toilet before breakfast.”
The mess is also not trivial simply because it involves socks and toiletries. You told him it bothered you, and he did not take you seriously. Shared living is built from tiny acts of consideration. Nobody has to keep a hotel room like an operating theatre, but they do have to notice when the person beside them is becoming distressed.
His stomach bug is the part for which I would offer him the most mercy. Illness is graceless, and very few people become more alluring while their digestive system is staging a coup. You were not wrong to struggle with it, though disappearing for walks while he was unwell may be worth thinking about. A long-term relationship eventually asks us to care for someone when they are inconvenient, unattractive and producing evidence we would rather not inspect.
But the detail I would not wave away is the way he spoke to Greek people.
That is not holiday mess. That is not plumbing. That is not a stomach bug.
It is character.
A person who talks down to local people while enjoying their country is showing you how he behaves when he believes he is entitled to something. Embarrassment in those moments is often the body’s way of saying, “Pay attention. This matters.”
You say you became quieter and quieter. That may be the most important sentence in your letter.
You did not merely lose sexual interest. You began withdrawing from the relationship while still standing inside it.
That is not simply a story about getting the ick. It is also a story about what happens between you when something is wrong.
Do not make a decision based solely on whether you fancied him while he had diarrhoea. Very few romances survive that particular lighting test with dignity.
But do not rush to “get back to the way you were” either. The way you were depended partly on not having seen certain things.
You now need one honest conversation.
Not a prosecution. Not a catalogue of his bathroom crimes. Tell him the trip made you realise that you communicate badly when uncomfortable, that you felt dismissed when you raised the mess, and that you were genuinely troubled by the way he spoke to Greek people.
Then watch what he does.
Does he listen?
Does he laugh it off?
Does he blame you for being precious?
Does he become curious about your experience?
Does he show any shame about his behaviour towards the locals, or only embarrassment that you noticed?
The future of the relationship is not hiding in the waste-paper bin. It is in his response.
You may discover that the trip exposed some manageable habits and one miserable week. Or you may discover that the version of him you liked best was the version you only ever met in carefully measured doses.
Either answer is useful.
And for what it is worth, there is no shame in learning that you do not want to share a bathroom with someone for the rest of your life. Civilisations have collapsed over less.
Yours, from the public toilets with my compact mirror,
Joely
Dear Joely: My Sock Drawer Has Become a Personality
A 32-year-old man has a job, a flat, a girlfriend and far too many socks. Is his novelty hosiery harmless joy, or a crisis unfolding from the ankles down?
Dear Joely,
I am a 32-year-old man who, on paper at least, seems to have his life reasonably sorted. I have a decent job in IT, my own flat in a middling part of town, and I can cook a passable spaghetti bolognese without setting off the smoke alarm every time. Yet here I am, writing to you with a problem that feels both ridiculous and strangely genuine.
The issue is my socks. Yes, really. For the past year or so, I have developed what can only be described as a mild obsession with buying new pairs of socks. Colourful ones, thick hiking ones, those fancy bamboo ones that promise to eliminate odour (they do not), and even a pair with little pineapples on them that make me smile every time I put them on. My sock drawer now resembles a jumble sale, and every time I open it, I feel a strange mix of pride and panic.
The trouble is that my girlfriend of six months has started to notice. She is practical, organised, and the sort of person who folds her T-shirts with military precision. Last week she suggested we “have a clear-out”, and I found myself defending my pineapple socks as if they were treasured family heirlooms. I mumbled something about self-expression and personal joy, but I fear I sounded unhinged.
Deep down, I know this is probably a symptom of something else, maybe a fear of proper grown-up commitment, or the creeping realisation that I am hurtling towards middle age with nothing more substantial to show for it than an impressive collection of foot coverings.
I do love her, and I want to be the sort of man who has his life together rather than one who argues passionately in defence of novelty hosiery. But every time I try to throw a pair away, I hesitate. What if those are the socks that finally bring me luck, or at least a decent day?
Please tell me if I am being absurd, or whether this is a perfectly normal male rite of passage that no one talks about. Any advice on how to balance sock-related happiness with not driving my girlfriend up the wall would be gratefully received.
Yours in mild embarrassment,
Sock Hoarder from Surrey
Dear Sock Hoarder,
You are not having a commitment crisis. You are having a storage crisis wearing tiny pineapples.
The socks themselves are not the problem. Colourful socks are harmless, cheerful and considerably preferable to many of the hobbies available to a 32-year-old man with disposable income and internet access. You could be collecting vintage swords, cryptocurrency or opinions about craft beer. Novelty hosiery is practically civic-minded.
What matters is whether buying them has become compulsive, expensive, secretive or emotionally loaded. If you are spending money you cannot afford, hiding purchases, or using new socks to anaesthetise yourself every time life feels dull, then yes, there may be something worth examining beneath the bamboo blend.
But from what you describe, this sounds less like a psychological emergency and more like a small source of pleasure that has outgrown its allotted drawer.
Your girlfriend is also not unreasonable. She sees chaos. You see possibility. Both of you are being honest, although only one of you appears to believe a pineapple can improve morale from the ankle down.
So do not stage a brutal purge. Create a system.
Keep the pairs you genuinely wear and love. Throw away any that are stretched, uncomfortable, holey, mysteriously single or capable of standing upright unaided. Put the rest into one defined space. When that space is full, one pair must leave before another pair enters. This is not oppression. It is border control.
And do not surrender the pineapple socks. Every relationship needs one object that makes no sense to the other person but is nevertheless protected by treaty.
As for your fear that the socks represent all you have to show for adulthood, I would point out that you have a job, a flat, a relationship and a bolognese that only occasionally threatens the fire brigade. That is a perfectly respectable life. Adulthood is not proved by owning fewer socks. It is proved by knowing which ones are worth keeping.
With full support for regulated pineapple retention,
Joely
Dear Joely: My Friend Ditched Me for a Pub Fixture
A rare night out ends badly when one friend vanishes into the beer garden with a stranger, leaving the other waiting, worrying and quietly furious.
Dear Joely,
I'm a 55-year-old woman living in Melbourne. I have a good female friend, a bit older than me, whom I have known for many years. We don't catch up often enough, but when we do, we always vow not to leave it so long before getting together again.
When we do get together, we normally start with dinner and a catch-up. The wine begins to flow, and then we go to a few bars for drinks afterwards. Because it's such a rare thing, it's not unusual to get a bit tipsy and find ourselves doing something silly like karaoke or dancing with very young men. The next day, we text to compare hangovers. It might seem a bit childish, but for us, it seems to be a good way to dust off the cobwebs.
On the last occasion, we ended up in this rather awful bar. Many of the men there looked as though the place was their second home. They seemed to come up to us one after the other and try their luck. I found it rather dull and would have preferred to carry on talking together, but my friend started getting all giggly and girly with one of these men. I was trying my best not to be bitchy towards the man involved. Smile politely, etc.
My friend at one point excused herself to go to the ladies. After she left, the man tried harder to get a laugh out of me, but I was not impressed. At one point, he asked me if I'd rather he left me alone, and I actually nodded. So he left, and I waited for my friend.
And I waited. And I waited some more.
I began to worry that she might have been more tipsy than I suspected, so I decided to go and check the ladies' toilet. I didn't make it all the way back when I spied her in the beer garden. She and the boring guy who had been chatting with us previously were deeply engaged in a game of tonsil tennis. I was utterly floored and, to be honest, disgusted.
I went out, tapped her on the shoulder and said that I was going home. She made some protests, but I left before I could hear what she had to say.
I didn't hear from her again that night, but the next morning she texted a light-hearted message, hoping I got home safely, telling me she had a shocking headache and probably wouldn't be moving for the rest of the day. I just sent the normal smile emoji back in response.
I can't bring myself to reply. I still feel too angry. How dare she trade me in for some boozer? It's thinking of myself sitting there waiting for her, feeling concerned, while she wasn't giving me a care in the world that really sticks in my craw.
I haven't responded to her yet apart from that. I do love this friend, but I can't see myself going out with her again if that's the way she's going to carry on. Neither can I see us having a conversation about this that won't end badly.
I'm too old for this.
Yours
Pissed off, to be honest
Dear Pissed Off,
You are not too old for karaoke, questionable bars or dancing with men whose birthdays occurred alarmingly recently. You are, however, too old to be left sitting alone in a pub wondering whether your friend has fallen into a toilet cubicle while she is outside conducting an enthusiastic oral examination of a man who appears to have come with the furniture.
The problem is not that she kissed him. She is entitled to flirt, giggle and make decisions that look significantly less enchanting under the hard light of morning. The problem is that she vanished without telling you, left you waiting and worrying, and then sent a breezy hangover bulletin the next day as though the evening had concluded exactly as planned.
That was inconsiderate. You had gone out together. At the very least, she owed you a quick: “I'm heading outside with him. Are you all right getting home?” Friendship does not require a permission slip before tonsil tennis, but it does require basic courtesy.
I would not end a longstanding friendship over one drunken lapse, especially when you clearly love her. But I would not swallow your anger and pretend nothing happened either. Resentment kept under the tongue has a nasty aftertaste.
Say something simple:
“I was really upset that you disappeared without telling me. I was sitting there waiting and worrying about you, and then found you outside with him. I don't care that you kissed someone, but I do care that you left me without a word.”
That keeps the issue where it belongs. Not on the boring man. Not on her sexuality. Not on whether women in their fifties should know better than to behave badly in bars. On consideration.
Her response will tell you far more than the incident itself. If she is mortified and apologises, the friendship probably survives with one useful amendment to the constitution: no disappearing into beer gardens without notifying the other member of the delegation.
If she laughs it off or tells you that you are overreacting, then the problem is larger than one ill-advised snog with a pub fixture.
You are not too old for silly nights. You are simply old enough to expect better manners during them.
With sympathy for the hangover you didn't deserve,
Joely
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She thought she had found tenderness, escape and the beginning of another life. Then one disastrous night in a hotel room gave her a serious case of the ick.
Dear Joely,
I am 44, married with two children, aged 12 and 8, but the relationship is all over bar the shouting. It won’t be easy to leave. My husband is abusive, not physically, but through a complex web of coercive control. I am seeing a psychologist. That’s just some background.
For a long while, I have felt as though I am ripe to have an affair. As I said, there is nothing between my husband and me, and I am constantly left alone while he works long hours and travels abroad for work. I work as well, but the childcare has somehow worked out to be my responsibility.
About four months ago, I met a man through work and we really hit it off straight away. He is intelligent, kind and generous, and we have heaps in common. We get together for meals whenever we can, normally lunches because of our commitments. We talk and talk and talk. He gets me, and for the first time in years I feel understood.
I should mention that he is also unhappily married. That’s just the start of it, though. Our lives are so similar it’s actually spooky.
Over time, we built up quite a closeness and, yes, an attraction as well. We ended up making a date to spend a night together at a hotel away from the area where we live. My children were spending the night with their grandparents.
It was really quite lovely being with him in those circumstances. I got to dress up, and we had drinks at a nice bar and then dinner together. It had been years since I had done anything even remotely like that.
After the drinks and food, we ended up back in the hotel room. Things progressed to kissing, then touching, and soon afterwards we were naked in bed.
He went down to give me oral sex, and that’s when things took a turn for the worse.
It was awful. It didn’t turn me on at all. He was all over the place and didn’t seem to have the first idea about female anatomy. I found myself in the really difficult position of not knowing whether to fake it or say something, which I think he detected.
I tried to encourage him to have normal sex, but that didn’t work either. He wasn’t erect. After all the weeks of build-up, talk, closeness and caring, followed by the drinks and dinner, it was a terrible outcome. I felt like crying.
He ended up pacing around the room, not naked, and I tried to get him to talk about it. He wouldn’t speak for ages. Eventually, he told me he had never gone down on a woman before and had felt enough about me to make me his first.
My reaction was not what he had hoped for, and he felt ashamed and embarrassed. I didn’t know what to say.
We spent an awkward night together, and the atmosphere was horrible. Since then, things haven’t been the same between us. I miss him terribly because the messages and conversations haven’t been as they were.
Worst of all, I cannot imagine in my wildest dreams ever having sex with him again. It has completely turned me off. I wish I could change that, but I have the ick. A serious case of it.
If I’m honest, I don’t know what’s worse: the fact that he had never given oral sex to a woman at his age, he is 39, or that his first attempt, with me, was so bad.
I feel down in the dumps, lonely, sad and disappointed. To be honest, I wish I had just given an Oscar-worthy performance.
Pathetic in Putney
Dear Pathetic in Putney,
First, you are not pathetic. You are disappointed, lonely, sexually underwhelmed and currently living inside a marriage where your freedom has been slowly parcelled up and handed back to you in supervised portions. That is quite enough misery without adding self-contempt to the buffet.
And no, you should not have given an Oscar-worthy performance.
An Oscar-worthy performance might have spared him one mortifying evening, but it would have sentenced you to an entire sequel. Possibly a franchise.
The problem is not simply that he was bad at oral sex. People can learn. Female anatomy is not guarded by riddles, fire-breathing dragons or a subscription paywall. A willing, attentive adult can improve enormously by listening, asking and resisting the urge to approach a vulva like an unfamiliar control panel.
What seems to have killed the mood was the whole peculiar bundle: his inexperience, your shock, his shame, the pacing, the silence, the failed erection, and the crushing distance between the night you had imagined and the one you actually got.
You had not merely booked a hotel room. You had booked passage out of your life.
For weeks, this man had been intelligence, kindness, conversation, recognition and possibility. He made you feel understood after years of being controlled and neglected. By the time you reached that bed, he was carrying the combined weight of romance, escape, sexual resurrection and proof that another life was waiting.
That is an impossible amount of luggage for one man to bring into a hotel room, particularly when he has never previously travelled south.
Your ick may be permanent. Sometimes desire disappears with the speed and finality of a stage trapdoor. But it may also be protecting you from the humiliation and sadness of that night. You cannot order yourself to want him again, but you also do not need to decide immediately that the entire connection was fraudulent.
The more revealing question is whether the two of you can talk honestly now.
Can he say, “I was inexperienced, frightened and ashamed,” without making you responsible for repairing his pride?
Can you say, “I was disappointed and overwhelmed, and I did not know how to guide you,” without turning his lack of experience into a character defect?
And can either of you discuss what happened without pretending the evening was solely a technical malfunction involving his tongue?
Because there is another awkward truth here: neither of you is free. You are both using this relationship partly as refuge from unhappy marriages. That does not mean your feelings are unreal. It does mean the relationship has been growing in a greenhouse, protected from school runs, bills, domestic habits, difficult decisions and the full weather of ordinary life.
Before deciding whether this man deserves another chance in bed, I would concentrate on something more urgent: creating a safe, independent plan for leaving your abusive marriage.
Coercive control often intensifies when the controlling person senses separation. Please continue working with your psychologist, and seek specialist domestic-abuse support to help you plan practically and safely. Do not make your escape dependent on whether this affair survives. You need a door that belongs to you, not one held open by another unhappily married person.
As for your lover, one honest conversation is warranted. Not because you owe him another sexual audition, but because you miss the friendship and closeness that existed before the hotel. Tell him the night affected you, that his withdrawal has hurt, and that you would rather speak plainly than let embarrassment rot the whole relationship in silence.
Then see what he does.
A man can be forgiven for not knowing where everything is. At thirty-nine, however, he should be capable of having a conversation after getting lost.
Yours in better exits and considerably better sex,
Joely
Dear Joely: The Case of the Wandering Toe
Four neighbours, drinks beneath the stars and one supposedly civilised spa arrangement. Everything is lovely — until an adventurous toe begins crossing boundaries below the waterline.
Dear Joely,
I am fortunate to live in one of the nicer areas of Sydney with my husband and our two young children. All is as well as can be in those departments.
We are very good friends with our neighbours across the street. They are a couple, about ten years older than us. Every month or so, the four of us get together for drinks and some food. We alternate between our houses as the venue.
We both have spas in our yards and, at the end of these evenings, we usually end up having a tub together, with more drinks and chats. We don’t wear clothes on these occasions. This isn’t for any racy reason. It just came about because none of us normally wears clothes when in our own spa, so we figured: why would we start on these social evenings?
Nothing is made of the nudity, and we all really enjoy chatting together in the warm tub under the stars.
All good so far, but the problem is this: the male neighbour has taken to touching me underwater with his toe.
I don’t mean an accidental touch. I mean he is putting his toe between my legs and looking for encouragement.
This is incredibly awkward for me. If I call it out when it’s happening, that’s the evening — and possibly future get-togethers — finished. Or he could deny it.
If I speak to the female neighbour about it alone — we are very close as friends — she might feel awkward or jealous, or not believe me.
I told my husband, and he seems more amused than anything.
I don’t want to encourage him in any way. I like things, apart from this problem, as they are.
I learned of your page from a different friend and thought — hoped — you might be able to help.
Yours
Unwanted Toe Attention
Dear Unwanted Toe Attention,
What a beautifully civilised arrangement you have created: good friends, warm water, drinks beneath the stars — and one man’s big toe attempting to start a separate social programme.
Let us clear up the only part that appears to be confusing anyone. Being naked in a spa is not an invitation to be touched. Your neighbour knows the difference between an accidental brush of the foot and deliberately placing his toe between your legs while watching to see what happens next.
This is not a rogue limb. He is conducting a small underwater feasibility study:
Will she react?
Will she say anything?
Might the toe be permitted to return?
The answer to the final question must be no.
You do not need to turn the evening into a neighbourhood emergency or suddenly announce, “Whose toe is that, and why is it there?”
Although it would settle the question rather efficiently.
The next time it happens, move away, look directly at him and say quietly:
“Please don’t do that again.”
No nervous laugh. No apology. No long explanation that allows him to pretend you have misunderstood the fascinating migratory habits of his foot.
If he denies it, simply say:
“Good. Then it won’t happen again.”
That is all you need.
I would not begin by speaking privately to his wife. He created the problem, and it should not be handed to the two women to manage between them over coffee. Speaking to her first also gives him the opportunity to deny it before you have ever addressed him directly.
Your husband’s amusement deserves a second conversation too. Tell him plainly that you are not flattered, entertained or secretly enjoying the attention. You feel uncomfortable and sexually intruded upon, and you need him to take that seriously. He does not have to storm across the street with a pool noodle unless that is what you want, but he does need to stop treating it as a saucy neighbourhood anecdote.
You are worried that objecting may spoil the evening or end future gatherings.
But darling, the evenings are already being spoiled. You are sitting in warm, bubbling water wondering whether a toe is about to make another covert border crossing while everyone discusses schools, renovations and interest rates above the surface.
That is no way to relax.
One calm, unmistakable boundary may be enough to return the foot to ordinary civilian life. Should it happen again, I would retire the shared spa evenings altogether. Not because nudity caused the problem, but because one guest has shown that he cannot be trusted with the arrangement.
Warm water, cold drinks and neighbourly nudity can coexist perfectly well.
They simply require all four adults — and all forty toes — to behave themselves.
Yours, with both feet firmly where they belong,
Joely
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Dear Joely: The Towel Fell. His Assumptions Shouldn’t Have.
A tipsy towel dash in a share house leads to accidental nudity, unwanted attention, and one very necessary boundary.
Dear Joely,
I live in a rather large share house in Surrey. I'm 28 and it suits me at the moment. I only knew one of my housemates when I moved in. There are three others, two females and one male, that I had never met before. I get on well with each of them, but we tend to get on with our own lives and cross paths fairly randomly, mostly. I've been here for about three months at this point.
Without getting super complicated, most of our bedrooms, with the exception of the girl I knew when I moved in, are on the first floor.
A few weeks ago, I went through a hard time with a work situation. I'm not a big drinker, but on that particular occasion I decided to bring a few beers home and sit in my room and drown my sorrows. When I drink beer, it gives me a particularly strong signal when I need to have a wee. And this particular night was no exception.
It had gotten late and the house was quiet. I made the decision to creep down the hallway in just a short towel to use the toilet. I know this isn't acceptable in a share house, but I genuinely thought everyone was in bed. I was down in the dumps and a little bit tipsy.
Anyway, I ran into the one male who rents a room here. It sounds like a bad comedy, but I was so shocked when I ran into him that I dropped my towel. I was incredibly embarrassed, of course, but numbed a little bit by alcohol. I made some ridiculous remark and carried on to the bathroom.
You might think that might be the end of the story, but it isn't. He has taken this as an invitation to begin pursuing me, I think. He talks to me more than he used to. He hints at eating together and has sat down in the lounge room when I have been watching TV a couple of times. That's not a problem, but he tries to initiate conversation. Also, not a problem, but he would never have done this before the towel-dropping incident.
Last Friday, I was dressed up to go out and meet a girlfriend when he saw me on my way out. He asked where I was going and what time I thought I'd be home. The bottom line is things have gotten awkward. I'm really not interested in him. I wish I was. It would be too easy. But I'm not. So, what I have left is awkward, awkward, awkward.
I thought you might be able to help with some advice.
Yours
Regretting the Towel Dash
Dear Regretting the Towel Dash,
First of all: yes, walking down the hall in a towel in a share house is a risky little expedition. But let us not get hysterical. You did not stage a cabaret. You did not issue engraved invitations. You were tipsy, sad, caught short, and made a poor wardrobe decision between your bedroom and the toilet. These things happen. Sometimes the human body has needs and the laundry basket has the only available strategy.
The important point is this: accidentally dropping your towel is not consent, flirtation, foreplay, or a legally binding indication of romantic interest. It is a towel mishap. A mortifying one, yes, but still just a towel mishap.
Your male housemate appears to have taken one awkward glimpse of you and built himself a small conservatory of hope. That is unfortunate for him, but it is not your responsibility to furnish it.
You do not need to apologise for not fancying him. You do not need to reward his interest because it would be “easy.” Easy is not a reason to let someone into your life, your bed, your evening, or your nervous system. If you are not interested, that is the whole answer.
What you need now is a calm, boring, unmistakable boundary. Not dramatic. Not cruel. Not a house meeting with biscuits and laminated minutes. Just something direct enough that he cannot keep pretending the situation is charmingly ambiguous.
The next time he asks where you are going, when you will be home, or hints at dinner, say something like:
“Just so there’s no misunderstanding after the other night, I’m not interested in anything romantic or sexual between us. I’m happy for us to be friendly as housemates, but that’s all.”
Then stop talking. Do not pad it with “sorry” six times. Do not explain that you are busy, complicated, healing, not ready, emotionally unavailable, secretly joining a convent, or allergic to men who appear near bathrooms. Explanations invite negotiation. Clarity closes the door.
If he is decent, he will be embarrassed, back off, and life will become awkward for approximately seven to ten business days before everyone resumes pretending to be normal around the kettle.
If he does not back off — if he keeps asking where you are going, monitoring when you come home, sitting himself beside you despite your discomfort, or making the house feel unsafe — then this stops being a comedy of errors and becomes a housemate problem. In that case, speak to the housemate you already knew before moving in, and consider putting the boundary in writing. You are entitled to use the lounge, the hallway and the toilet without being quietly auditioned as someone’s girlfriend.
As for the towel dash: retire it. Not because you have done something shameful, but because communal living is already intimate enough without adding accidental nudity to the rota. Buy a robe. A proper one. Belted. Reliable. Less “French farce,” more “woman with bladder and boundaries.”
You are allowed to laugh about this eventually. But you are also allowed to feel uncomfortable now.
The towel fell. That was an accident.
His assumptions are not.
With sympathy, and a firm recommendation for pyjamas with elastic,
Joely
Dear Joely: My Friends Stopped Inviting Me Out Since I Got Engaged
She’s 26, newly engaged, and just finished her nursing degree — but now her old friendship group has stopped inviting her out. Joely answers a letter about growing up, changing friendships, and how to say, “I’m still here.”
Dear Joely,
I stumbled on your page. I hope you can help.
I’m 26. Rather than tell you loads of boring story about how I got where I am, I’ll try and make it as easy as I can.
I’ve just finished my degree in nursing. Apart from all the study and exams, I had a wonderful time. I had lots of friends around me and a fantastic social life.
I met a fantastic guy on one of our great nights out. He and I just got closer and closer, and we’re now engaged and living together. I’m happy with that, but it feels like my friends have left me behind.
I don’t usually get texted now when they’re going out as a group. I find out about it afterwards, and it really hurts. They just say, “Oh, you’re always busy.”
We used to do everything together. There was a really close group. Now it’s like we can talk, but it’s really basic chat. Nobody bothers going into what’s really going on with them — well, with me anyway.
I miss talking properly to my friends, and while I’m happy with my fiancé, I feel really excluded even though I’ve done nothing wrong. It’s starting to affect my relationship with my fiancé a bit because I’m down in the dumps a lot of the time.
Sorry, this is a bit mixed up.
Sad and Left Behind
Dear Sad and Left Behind,
First of all, congratulations on finishing your nursing degree. That is not a small thing. That is a very large thing involving caffeine, panic, shoes that hurt, and possibly a relationship with laminated notes that became too intimate.
And congratulations on the fiancé too. A good one, I hope. One who knows how to make tea, apologise properly, and not say “calm down” unless he has a death wish.
Now to the sore bit.
I don’t think you’ve done anything wrong. But I do think something has changed, and everyone is pretending it hasn’t.
Groups are funny creatures. At university, friendship can feel effortless because everyone is in the same stream. Same deadlines, same nights out, same shared exhaustion, same cheap wine, same tiny dramas given Shakespearean importance at 2 a.m.
Then someone graduates. Someone gets engaged. Someone starts shift work. Someone moves in with a partner. Suddenly the stream divides, and people often handle that very badly. Instead of saying, “We miss you, but we don’t know how to fit you in now,” they say, “Oh, you’re always busy.”
That line hurts because it makes their exclusion sound like your fault.
But here is the awkward little truth: they may not be deliberately leaving you out. They may have made a lazy assumption that engaged-you is no longer available in the same way single-student-you was. They may think they’re being considerate. Or they may be avoiding the slightly uncomfortable feeling that the group is changing and nobody knows what to do with that.
The first thing I’d do is stop waiting for the group to magically remember you. Pick one friend — the kindest one, not necessarily the loudest one — and say something plain.
Not dramatic. Not accusatory. Just honest.
Try:
“I know life has changed a bit since I moved in with him, but I really miss you all. I’ve noticed I’m not being included as much, and it’s hurt more than I wanted to admit. I still want to be part of things.”
Then be specific. Suggest a night. Suggest coffee. Suggest drinks after work. Don’t just say, “We should catch up,” because that phrase has sent more friendships to the grave than almost anything else.
Also, make sure you are not accidentally waiting to be invited while giving off the signal that your fiancé is now your whole social life. That happens more easily than people think. Love is wonderful, but it can become a very comfortable little cave, and sometimes our friends stop knocking because they think we’ve moved in permanently with the candles and the throw rugs.
This does not mean your fiancé has done anything wrong. But it is worth being careful not to make him responsible for filling every emotional gap your friends have left. That’s too much pressure on a relationship, especially a young engaged one. He can love you beautifully and still not be a group of girlfriends.
So build both things: your relationship and your friendships. They need different rooms in your life.
And if you do reach out clearly, and they still keep excluding you? Then you will have your answer. Painful, yes, but useful. Some friendships are for a season, and some survive the awkward transition into adult life. The ones worth keeping will make space for the fuller version of you — nurse, fiancée, friend, tired human, all of it.
You haven’t been left behind because you moved forward.
But you may need to turn around, wave your arms a little, and say, “I’m still here, you idiots.”
With sympathy, and a firm vote for one proper girls’ night very soon,
Joely
Dear Joely: Asking for a Friend, Obviously
A sceptical reader writes to test Joely’s advice-giving credentials, only to accidentally reveal rather more than they intended.
Dear Joely,
I have to admit I’m not sure I really believe in this sort of thing.
Advice columns always seem a bit made-up to me. People write in with these dramatic problems and then someone like you gives an answer that sounds wise and everyone claps. Maybe I’m being cynical, but it all feels a bit neat.
Anyway, I read a couple of your replies and thought I’d test you.
What exactly are you offering people here? Because from where I’m sitting, most advice is just common sense with nicer words. If someone is unhappy, leave. If someone treats you badly, tell them. If you’re lonely, join a club. If you hate your job, get another one. I don’t mean to be rude, but it doesn’t seem that complicated.
The problem is, people don’t do the obvious thing, do they?
I know someone who complains all the time about being lonely, but then when people invite them anywhere, they say no. They say they want connection, but they don’t answer messages properly. They say no one understands them, but they don’t explain themselves either.
At some point, surely you have to stop making everything deep and just admit some people are their own problem.
So what would you say to someone like that? Not me, obviously. Just someone I know.
Yours,
Not Entirely Convinced
Dear Not Entirely Convinced,
First of all, congratulations on writing an entire letter about “someone you know” while leaving your fingerprints all over the windows.
Very elegant. Very subtle. Nobody noticed. We were all too distracted by the enormous false moustache.
You ask what I am offering people here, and I’ll tell you: not rescue, not instructions, and certainly not a small laminated card marked How to Live Correctly. Most advice is not magic. You’re right about that. A great deal of it is common sense with better lighting.
Leave if you’re miserable. Speak if you’re hurt. Rest if you’re exhausted. Apologise if you’ve behaved badly. Stop texting the person who treats you like an optional side dish.
Simple, yes.
Easy? Almost never.
That is the bit you’ve conveniently stepped over while wearing your sensible shoes.
People often know what the obvious thing is. The problem is not usually information. The problem is fear, shame, habit, hope, pride, attachment, grief, and the horrible little truth that change asks something of us before it gives anything back.
As for your “someone” who complains of loneliness and then says no to invitations, doesn’t answer messages, wants to be understood but won’t explain themselves — yes, they may well be part of their own problem.
Most of us are.
That doesn’t mean the loneliness isn’t real.
Sometimes people refuse invitations because accepting one means admitting they wanted to be asked. Sometimes they don’t answer messages because the first reply feels like stepping onto a stage. Sometimes they say no one understands them because explaining themselves and still not being understood would hurt too much.
Is that frustrating for the people around them? Absolutely. Is it self-defeating? Often. Is it solved by telling them to “just join a club”? My dear, if human suffering could be cured by joining a club, the world would be a much quieter place and municipal badminton would have saved us all.
So here is my advice to your friend, whoever they may be wearing your shoes:
Stop using cynicism as a crash helmet.
It may protect you from looking foolish, but it also stops quite a lot of air getting in.
You don’t have to become one of those people who speaks entirely in therapy phrases and thanks the universe every time a parking space opens up. You don’t have to become soft-boiled and available to every invitation. But you do have to admit, at least privately, that wanting connection while avoiding exposure is a very lonely little trick.
Start small. Answer one message properly. Accept one low-stakes invitation. Tell one person the truth without making a joke immediately afterwards. Let yourself be seen in one inch of daylight and see if you burst into flames.
You probably won’t.
And if you still don’t believe in advice columns, that’s perfectly all right. I don’t believe in most things before breakfast either.
But you wrote.
So something in you is less convinced than you’re pretending.
Still not entirely convinced, but hopeful,
Joely
Dear Joely: Why Do I Keep Going Back to Men Who Hurt Me?
A reader raised in an abusive household keeps finding herself drawn into painful relationships with older men. Joely offers a compassionate response about trauma, familiarity, safety, and why returning to harm is not the same as love.
Dear Joely,
Congratulations on your column. I have really enjoyed it so far. You make me smile and sometimes laugh. I hate that I need to write to you about something serious. If my letter is too much of a corta-onda — as we say back in Brasil — please don’t publish it.
I am 26 years old. I grew up in an abusive household. There was always a lot of yelling. My father was a drunk and when alcohol was involved, it was nothing for him to hit my mother.
As kids, my older sister and I tried to protect her as best as we could, but we couldn’t be there all the time. She would often walk around bruised and, of course, she suffered mentally as well.
My sister left as soon as she could, leaving me alone with my mother and father from age 13. I didn’t blame her. I still don’t.
My mother died young from cancer — at just 45. It is fair to say life was a disappointment to her.
I say all this by way of my background. My problem is that I’m finding relationships incredibly difficult. I tend to date men who are a fair bit older. Things start well, but they always turn out abusive.
I don’t stick around when this happens, but I have been known to go back and “visit the scene of the crime,” hoping things will be different. Of course, they never are.
I have tried going to counsellors. I can’t seem to relate to them and there are not many where I live. I know you can’t solve a problem that has been with me forever, but I just thought you might be able to give me some perspective.
Thank you, Joely,
Machucada
Dear Machucada,
First, your letter is not a corta-onda. It is not a mood-killer. It is a human being telling the truth.
And I’m very glad you wrote.
You grew up in a house where love and fear were tangled together before you were old enough to know they should be separate things. You watched your mother being hurt. You tried to protect her when you were still a child yourself. Your sister left, as she had every right to do, and you were left carrying far too much.
That is not “background.” That is weather. That is the climate your nervous system grew up inside.
So when you say you now find relationships difficult, I’m not surprised. Not because there is anything wrong with you, but because you learned intimacy in a dangerous room.
This is the part I want you to hear clearly: you are not choosing abusive men because you are stupid, weak, dramatic, or secretly “asking for it.” You are being pulled toward a pattern that your body recognises before your mind has a chance to object.
Sometimes what feels like chemistry is actually familiarity wearing perfume.
Older men may feel steady at first. Protective. Certain. Grown-up. But if the dynamic later becomes controlling, cruel or abusive, then the age difference may be part of the power imbalance, not an accident beside it.
The fact that you leave when abuse appears matters. That is a strong and sane instinct. Please respect that part of yourself. She is trying to save your life.
The part I would be more careful with is what you called “visiting the scene of the crime.” That phrase is painfully accurate. Going back to someone who has already shown you harm is not romance. It is the old wound asking whether this time the story might end differently.
I understand the hope. Of course you want the person who hurt you to become the person who makes it right. That would feel like justice. It would feel like repair. It would feel, perhaps, like rescuing the younger version of you who could not rescue your mother.
But abusive people rarely heal us from the harm they caused. More often, they repeat the lesson.
So here is one practical rule I would like you to try:
When a man becomes abusive, the relationship is over. Not paused. Not under review. Not waiting for his sad childhood explanation. Over.
You do not need to keep returning to check whether fire is still hot.
Counselling not working for you so far does not mean you are beyond help. It may mean you have not yet found the right kind of help. For what you describe, I would look specifically for someone trauma-informed, ideally with experience in childhood domestic violence, coercive control and relationship patterns. General counselling can sometimes feel too light for a wound this old.
You might also find it easier to begin with something less face-to-face: online trauma therapy, a domestic violence support service, a group for adult children from abusive homes, or even structured reading and journalling while you search for the right person. The right support should not make you feel judged, rushed or “too much.”
You are not too much. You are injured.
And injured people do not need scolding. They need safety, repetition, patience, and new experiences of being treated gently until the nervous system slowly begins to believe that gentleness is not a trick.
Please do not try to solve your whole life at once. Start smaller.
Do not go back to men who have harmed you.
Do not explain away the first signs of cruelty.
Do not mistake intensity for intimacy.
Do not confuse being wanted with being safe.
And when you feel the pull to return to someone who has hurt you, try saying this to yourself:
This is not love calling me back. This is the wound looking for a familiar door.
You signed yourself Machucada — wounded.
Yes. You are.
But wounded is not ruined.
Wounded is not doomed.
Wounded is not unlovable.
It only means the next part of your life must be built more carefully than the first part was built for you.
And you are allowed to build it.
Yours with tenderness, and absolutely no tolerance for men who make love feel unsafe,
Joely
Dear Joely: Should I Tell His Wife?
A sleep-deprived office worker spots what looks like a workplace affair during a soul-destroying birthday cake ritual. She knows the wife from yoga, dislikes both culprits, and wants to know: is this her business, or should she namast-stay out of it?
Dear Joely,
We had one of those workplace birthday things yesterday. You know the ones. Everyone gets called into the tea room, someone produces a Woolies or Coles cake in clear plastic — the sort that looks like it would still be technically edible in a month — and we all stand around singing like we haven’t got actual work to do.
Nobody really wants the cake. Everyone takes a piece anyway. Then half of it ends up in the bin later because, shock horror, shelf-stable supermarket icing is not actually a food group.
Anyway, I was already in a filthy mood because I’d barely slept the night before, so perhaps I wasn’t at my most generous.
There’s a woman at work — let’s call her Barbara — who has always got on my nerves a bit. She calls everyone “babe,” laughs too loudly at men who aren’t funny, and does that thing where she touches a man’s arm as if he’s just said something terribly clever when he’s only asked where the stapler is.
Normally I just roll my eyes internally and get on with life.
But yesterday, during the birthday cake hostage situation, I noticed something between Barbara and a married male colleague. I won’t name him, obviously, but let’s call him “Old Mate With A Wife.”
It was the looks. The stupid little smiles. The way they were trying so hard not to look like anything was going on that they looked exactly like something was going on.
Honestly, Joely, it was as obvious as a possum in a pantry.
The annoying thing is I know his wife. Not closely, but we go to the same yoga class and she seems like a perfectly decent person. Now I feel like I’m sitting on something.
I don’t especially like Barbara. I don’t feel any loyalty to him. And I fully admit I may have been fuelled by no sleep, terrible cake and general workplace irritation.
But if there is something going on, should I tell his wife?
Yours sincerely,
Namast-hey!!!
Dear Namast-hey!!!,
First of all, I would like to acknowledge the true villain of this piece: the workplace birthday cake.
There it sits, sweating gently in its plastic coffin, covered in icing the colour of printer toner’s breakdown. Everyone gathers around it pretending to be delighted, when in truth they are all thinking, I am an adult. I pay taxes. Why am I eating this?
So I understand the state you were in when Barbara began her mating display beside the urn.
Barbara sounds exhausting. Any woman who calls everyone “babe” while treating the office kitchenette like a cabaret stage is going to test the patience of the sleep-deprived. And yes, people conducting a new workplace flirtation often believe they are being wildly subtle when they are in fact lit up like a service station at midnight.
But should you tell his wife?
Not today.
I know. Unsatisfying. Joely has put the kettle on and hidden the matches.
The reason is this: you are currently angry, tired, cake-traumatised, and morally itchy. These are not ideal conditions for life-altering disclosure.
There is a big difference between acting from conscience and acting because Barbara has finally pushed your last nerve into traffic.
Ask yourself three questions.
First: what do I actually know?
Not suspect. Not smell in the air. Not “the way he looked at her near the paper plates.” Know.
Second: what is my relationship with his wife?
Are you close enough that silence would feel like betrayal, or are you yoga-adjacent acquaintances who once bonded over tight hamstrings and a shared hatred of crow pose?
Third: why do I want to tell her?
To protect her? To relieve your own discomfort? To punish him? To drop Barbara into a moral volcano and watch the plume?
Be honest. You don’t have to be pure, but you do have to know your motive.
If what you have is only a strong suspicion, do not march into yoga like the Angel of Adultery with a rolled-up mat. Watch. Wait. Say nothing yet.
If you later discover something concrete — not gossip, not vibes, but actual evidence — then the question changes. At that point, if this woman is genuinely in your life and you believe she is being deceived in a way that may harm her, a careful private conversation may be warranted.
But it would need to be calm, kind and clean. Not:
“Your husband and Barbara are at it.”
More like:
“I’m really sorry to say this, and I may be overstepping, but I’ve noticed something at work that made me uncomfortable. I don’t want to gossip, and I don’t want to hurt you, but I also didn’t feel right saying nothing.”
Then you give only what you know. No embroidery. No dramatic lighting. No Barbara character assassination, tempting though that may be.
For now, though, I prescribe sleep, distance, and not making lifelong decisions under the influence of Coles cake.
As for Barbara, let her keep calling people babe. Every office has one woman who treats married men like complimentary snacks. It is rarely as invisible as she thinks.
Do your yoga. Hold your tongue. Keep your eyes open.
And next time there’s a workplace birthday, bring your own biscuit.
Yours with clean hands and no office cake,
Joely
Dear Joely: My Boyfriend Won’t Take Me To Barbados
A reader longs to visit Barbados, but her boyfriend refuses for reasons involving jealousy, insecurity, and a deeply unattractive racial stereotype. Joely unpacks the difference between vulnerability and control — and whether some holidays are worth taking alone.
Dear Joely,
My partner and I live together in London. We have been together for almost two years and, for the most part, life is good. Last year, we went on holiday together to Goa, which was really fun. We both had a great time.
It has always been a strong wish of mine to visit the Caribbean — in particular Barbados and perhaps one of the smaller islands. The problem is that my boyfriend won’t even consider going to the West Indies and the reason, to me, is basically a joke.
When I push the point, and it has come down to arguments a few times, it turns out to be based around a deep-seated jealousy of Black men and the perceived size of Black men’s bodies.
I find this completely and utterly ridiculous and have said so more than once. I have pointed out the obvious: that I would be there as his partner and not casting about for an island fling, but he will not be moved.
I mentioned this to a few of my friends and they were shocked. He doesn’t come across this way to them.
I am annoyed about this on a few levels. The first is his stubbornness on what I see as an absurd point. Then I think about his inability to see my point of view. And plus, his underlying insecurity is deeply unattractive to me.
We have a sex life that we both enjoy a lot. Why he’s acting this way is beyond me. Should I just go alone and hang the consequences?
Yours sincerely,
Exasperated
Dear Exasperated,
There are many respectable reasons a person might not want to visit the Caribbean.
They hate heat. They don’t like long-haul flights. They once had an unfortunate encounter with rum punch and have never emotionally recovered. They are saving money. They prefer mountains. They are frightened of boats, mosquitoes, or becoming the sort of person who says “island time” without irony.
Your boyfriend’s reason is not one of these.
Your boyfriend does not want to go to Barbados because, somewhere in the private locker room of his mind, he has decided that if you are placed within a certain radius of Black men, your fidelity, judgment and knickers will all fling themselves into the sea.
This is not a travel preference. It is insecurity wearing a racist hat.
You are right to find it unattractive. Insecurity can be tender when someone owns it honestly: I know this is my issue, I’m embarrassed by it, I’m trying to work through it. But insecurity becomes controlling when it expects the other person’s life to get smaller around it.
And that is the part I would take seriously.
Because the issue is not really Barbados. Barbados is just where the ridiculousness has chosen to wear sunglasses. The real question is: what happens when your desire for something harmless collides with his fear of being inadequate?
Does he get curious about himself?
Does he trust you?
Does he hear you?
Or does he dig in until your wish becomes the problem?
You say you have a good sex life. Lovely. But sexual compatibility does not cancel out sexual insecurity. A man can enjoy your body and still be terrified that it contains preferences, memories, curiosity, fantasy, autonomy, and a passport.
Should you go alone and hang the consequences?
Not as a stunt. Not as punishment. Not with a dramatic “fine, I’ll go without you then” flourish while booking flights at midnight with one eye twitching.
But should you go to the Caribbean if you genuinely want to go, and he refuses to join you for this reason?
Yes, quite possibly.
First, though, I’d have one calm, adult, deeply unsexy conversation. Not about anatomy. Not about stereotypes. Not about whether his fear is “valid.” About the relationship.
Try something like:
“I want to understand whether you’re asking me to give up a place I’ve always wanted to visit because you don’t trust me, because you feel insecure, or because you hold beliefs about Black men that I’m not comfortable with. Whichever it is, we need to talk honestly, because this is starting to change how I see you.”
Then stop talking.
Let him answer.
If he can say, I know this is irrational, I’m ashamed of it, and I don’t want it to limit you, you may have something to work with.
If he doubles down, sulks, accuses you, or turns your perfectly ordinary travel wish into evidence that you’re secretly planning a sexual field trip, then you have learned something important.
Go to Barbados. Take sunscreen. Take a good book. Take your own sweet self.
And while you’re there, ask yourself whether you want a partner who can stand beside you in the world — or one who needs you to avoid entire regions because his imagination has packed badly.
Warmly,
Joely
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Dear Joely: I Said the Cruel Thing Out Loud at Dinner
A reader wakes at 4:17am after telling a heartbroken friend what she really thinks. Joely weighs in on drunken honesty, clean apologies and the limits of loyalty.
Dear Joely,
I think I may have ruined a friendship over dinner.
A group of us were at a friend’s house on Saturday night — eight or nine people around the table, wine, food, everyone talking over each other in that way that feels fun at the time and unbearable when you remember it later.
One of my closest friends started talking about her ex again. They split up nearly a year ago, but he still comes up constantly. I have listened to hours of it. I really have tried to be kind. I know people don’t just stop hurting because their friends are bored of the subject.
But I’d had too much to drink, and when she started going over the same old ground, I said something like, “I don’t think you miss him anymore. I think you miss having him to talk about.”
The table went quiet.
She looked absolutely wounded. I tried to laugh it off, then tried to explain, which probably made it worse. The rest of the night carried on, but not really. You know when everyone is pretending things are normal and they absolutely aren’t?
I went home feeling embarrassed, but it wasn’t until 4:17 in the morning that the full horror hit me. I woke up wide awake thinking, What did I say? Why did I say it in front of everyone?
The awful thing is, I don’t know if I was completely wrong. Part of me does think she’s become attached to the drama of it. But I also know I was cruel. I could have said something privately, soberly, gently — or just kept my mouth shut.
She hasn’t replied to my message today.
Do I apologise properly, or will that just make it all bigger? And am I a terrible friend for being so tired of hearing about someone else’s heartbreak?
Still Cringing at 4:17am
Dear Still Cringing,
First of all, congratulations on discovering one of adulthood’s least glamorous truths: sometimes the thing that should have stayed inside your head comes out wearing a dinner-party voice.
Was it cruel? Yes, a bit.
Was it unforgivable? No.
Was it possibly true? Also yes, which is why it landed with such a thud.
That’s the trouble with drunken honesty. It often contains just enough truth to be dangerous, and nowhere near enough kindness to be useful. You didn’t say, “I’m worried you’re still hurting and I don’t know how to help.” You said, in effect, “I’m tired of your pain and I think you may be enjoying it.” At a table. In front of witnesses. With wine assisting the prosecution.
So yes, you owe her an apology.
Not a long, self-flagellating performance. Not a twenty-seven-message essay about your motives, your exhaustion, your guilt and the exact time your soul sat bolt upright in bed. She doesn’t need to manage your remorse as well as her humiliation.
Send something simple:
I’m really sorry for what I said at dinner. It was hurtful, and saying it in front of everyone made it worse. I had no right to embarrass you like that. I care about you, and I’m sorry.
That’s it. No “but.” No “I was just trying to say.” No “you have to admit.” No courtroom reconstruction.
The apology is for the way you said it, where you said it, and what it did to her.
Later — much later, if the friendship recovers and she invites real conversation — there may be room for the truth underneath it: that you love her, but you cannot be the permanent storage facility for one man’s emotional debris. Friends are allowed to have limits. Even kind friends. Even loyal friends. Even friends who have sat through every chapter of the breakup, including the director’s commentary.
But timing matters.
If someone is bleeding, you don’t start by saying, “To be fair, this carpet has suffered enough.”
For now, apologise cleanly. Give her space. Let her decide whether she wants to answer.
And no, you are not a terrible friend for being tired. You are a tired friend who said the tired part out loud, badly, after wine, under domestic lighting.
That is not a life sentence. It is a repair job.
Next time, if the same conversation starts circling the drain, try the sober version:
I love you, and I want to support you, but I think we might be stuck in the same loop. Can we talk about what would actually help you now?
Less dramatic than a dinner-table truth bomb, admittedly. But much kinder to the crockery.
With sympathy, and a glass of water before bed,
Joely
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Dear Joely: I Kissed My Best Friend’s Boyfriend. What Now?
She kissed her best friend’s boyfriend at an eighteenth birthday party. Now she’s ashamed, confused, and desperate to repair the friendship. Joely gives her the honest answer.
Dear Joely,
I hope you can answer me quickly. I’ve stuffed up. Badly.
I’m in my late teens. I’m lucky enough to have a best friend that I can share everything with. And she shares everything with me too. We both live with our parents still.
She has a new boyfriend — let’s call him Ross. She’s fancied him for a long time, and they finally got together.
She had a party at her parents’ place for her 18th. I was there, of course, and so was Ross. It was a fun party. Lots of booze, chips and party food — like a kid’s party but more fun because we’re all older and can legally do all the stuff we’ve always wondered about.
I was walking up the side of the house when I saw Ross. He saw me too. We looked at each other and before I knew what was happening we were having a passionate pash under a nearby tree.
Then of course my friend wandered out and saw us.
Personally, I don’t know why I did it. There were certainly no plans to do anything with Ross — I always just thought of him as her guy. This was a real spur-of-the-moment fuck-up.
My friend was so cool about it. I apologised, but her eyes are saying, “I love you but why would you do this to me?”
I have no answers and feel nothing but deep shame. I don’t want to carry on seeing Ross or anything.
What should I do?
A Really Crappy Friend
Dear Really Crappy Friend,
First things first: yes, you stuffed up.
There’s no elegant way to put lipstick on that particular pig. You kissed your friend’s boyfriend at her own eighteenth birthday party, which is very much not the behaviour of the bridesmaid in a feel-good film.
But — and this is important — one dreadful, stupid, impulsive thing does not have to become the permanent title of your character.
You already know the kiss was wrong. That’s good. Shame, unpleasant though it is, can occasionally do useful work. It tells us where the line was, and that we crossed it. The trick is not to pitch a tent in the shame and start calling it home.
What you do now is simple, but not easy.
You apologise properly. Not dramatically. Not with self-pity. Not with a long speech about how terrible you feel, because then she ends up having to comfort you, which is just adding unpaid emotional admin to her birthday betrayal.
Say something like:
“I am so sorry. What I did was wrong and it hurt you. I don’t have an excuse, and I’m not going to insult you by pretending I do. I care about you, and I understand if you need space from me.”
Then stop talking.
Let her be angry. Let her be quiet. Let her ask questions. Let her not ask questions. Do not chase forgiveness like it’s a bus you’re late for.
As for Ross, avoid him. Completely. No private messages. No “clearing the air.” No sad little conversations under trees about how confused everyone is. The tree has already done enough.
If he contacts you, keep it short:
“What happened was wrong. I’m not continuing this. You need to speak honestly with her.”
And then back away.
Your friend’s eyes are asking, “Why would you do this to me?” The truthful answer may simply be: because you were drunk, flattered, impulsive, curious, reckless, and briefly more interested in being wanted than being loyal.
That is not pretty, but it is human.
The repair, if there is one, will come from consistency. Not one perfect apology. Not tears. Not grand gestures. Consistency.
Be honest. Give her space. Don’t touch Ross. Don’t recruit mutual friends to plead your case. Don’t make yourself the victim of your own guilt.
You may lose some closeness for a while. You may lose the friendship. That is the price of the moment, and you have to respect it.
But you can also learn from it.
Next time desire, alcohol and opportunity gather under a tree, remember: trees are for shade, not betrayal.
With sympathy, but not a party invitation,
Joely
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Dear Joely: The Vixen Across The Road
A married woman is rattled when the glamorous neighbour across the road invites her husband to a very particular kind of gathering. Joely advises on evasive husbands, honesty, and why the real problem may not be the woman with the auburn hair.
Dear Joely,
Emotionally, I'm all over the place at the moment and I could really use your advice. I've been married for seven years to my husband whom I love very much. We're both 36. We're both Geminis. I work for a bank, he's a photographer. We live in a nice house, in a great area. We don't have kids yet, but I'd quite like to start trying soon.
Over the road from us lives a woman I would call a vixen. She's about 45 I'd say, and stunning. Lots of auburn hair and a very curvy body. Rumours in the neighbourhood are that she hosts certain get-togethers at her place. These involve couples and 'swapping'.
We're not into that. But the other day, when I got home from work, she was talking to my husband at our front door. When I asked him later what they were chatting about he avoided the question. I tried a few times, and it was like I'd never even asked. This made me cross.
I pushed the point again when we were in bed later. He eventually admitted that we'd been invited to a gathering at her place Saturday week. I got snippy. He shook his head and turned away from me. We've not mentioned it since.
I'm scared. I want to be the only one holding my husband's car keys.
Heckles Up
Dear Heckles Up,
First of all, let us be calm.
You have not yet lost your husband to the auburn enchantress across the road, nor has he been discovered dangling upside down from a chandelier with a stranger’s house key in his teeth. At present, all we know for certain is that your husband was approached at the front door by a woman with a reputation, and instead of answering his wife honestly, he chose the communication strategy of a nervous schoolboy.
That is annoying, yes. But it is not yet an orgy.
The real problem here is not the invitation itself. Adults are invited to all sorts of things in this life, from gallery openings to mild depravity. The problem is that your husband avoided the question. Then avoided it again. Then eventually coughed up the truth only after you pushed the point in bed, by which stage the whole thing had already acquired the atmosphere of a diplomatic incident.
That matters.
Because once a person starts acting evasive over something sexual, however hypothetical, the imagination does what imagination does best: puts on heels, pours a drink, and gallops straight into catastrophe.
You did, however, strike gold with this line:
“I want to be the only one holding my husband’s car keys.”
That is deranged in exactly the right way. I salute it.
But your real task is not to seize the keys. It is to seize the truth.
At a calm moment — not in bed, not in a huff, not while glaring through the curtains at the vixen’s hydrangeas — say this:
“The invitation is one thing. What bothered me was that you dodged me when I asked. I need honesty from you, even when the subject is awkward. So tell me plainly — what did you feel about it, and why didn’t you just say so?”
And then, crucially, listen to the answer.
It may be that he was embarrassed, flattered, intrigued, awkward, or simply trying to avoid upsetting you. None of those are ideal, but they are not all equally sinister. The point is to find out which one it was.
Also, a useful question to ask yourself: are you frightened that he wants to go, or frightened that some part of him was tempted by being asked? Those are not quite the same fear, and knowing which one is haunting you will help you speak more honestly.
If he tells you clearly that he has no interest and simply handled it badly, then good. You can both laugh grimly about the swingers over the road and move on with your lives.
If he becomes slippery, defensive, or tries to make you feel ridiculous for minding, then I would pay much closer attention. Not because the neighbours are wicked, but because evasion is often more revealing than temptation.
In short: don’t catastrophise, but don’t ignore the wobble either. Talk properly. Demand honesty. And remember that the woman across the road may be a vixen, but she is not the issue if your own front door is sound.
Yours, in defence of candour and proper key management,
Joely
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Dear Joely: Too Loud, Too Late, Too Attractive
He’s loud, inconsiderate, musically committed, and unfortunately very attractive. When a sleepless Melbourne woman finds herself annoyed and intrigued in equal measure, Joely offers advice on noisy neighbours, common sense, and resisting the romance of bad behaviour.
Dear Joely,
I'm a 32 year old woman, living in an apartment block of eight units in Melbourne. I've been very happy here, except that about six months ago, the flat upstairs from me sold and a guy moved in that makes a lot of noise, often late into the night. He plays a sax and thinks nothing of practising until 1.30am. He also watches TV with the volume up really loud until all hours. It makes it hard for me to sleep.
To make it worse, I've seen the culprit collecting his mail a couple of times and he's actually really attractive, in a slightly wild sort of way. That aside, I feel like asking him to keep the noise down might annoy him and escalate the problem... and I really don't want that. On the other hand, my sleep and quality of life are being affected.
I'm having visions of becoming like Mr Heckles in Friends... letting my feelings be known with a broomstick.
I hope you can help.
Exasperated and Slightly Enamoured
Dear Exasperated and Slightly Enamoured,
Of course he’s attractive. These men are never a balding accountant in sensible loafers. They always arrive looking like they’ve been assembled by a casting director specifically to ruin your judgment.
Let me say this plainly: the fact that he is good-looking does not make him less of a pain in the arse.
Practising saxophone until 1.30am in an apartment block is not bohemian. It is antisocial. Watching television at full volume into the small hours is not free-spirited. It is selfish. He may be wild, but at present he is wild in the manner of a fox in a wheelie bin.
That said, your instinct is right. Going in blazing with a broomstick and a sleep-deprived speech about common decency is unlikely to produce a man who says, “My God, thank you for showing me the error of my ways.”
So. First move: calm, civil, direct.
Catch him in daylight, when neither of you is in your pyjamas and homicidal, and say something simple:
“Hi — I just wanted to mention that the sound travels quite a lot in the building, especially late at night. I’ve been hearing the sax and TV pretty clearly, and it’s been affecting my sleep. Would you mind keeping it down after about 10 or 11?”
That is not aggressive. That is normal adult communication. You are not asking him to stop existing. You are asking him not to turn your ceiling into Birdland at midnight.
If he is decent, that will be enough.
If he apologises and improves, excellent. You may continue finding him attractive from a safe emotional distance while also getting some REM sleep.
If he is vague, dismissive, or improves for three days and then resumes his late-night jazz odyssey, then you escalate in the least theatrical way possible: body corporate, building manager, strata, whatever version of adult bureaucracy your block runs on. Keep notes. Dates, times, type of noise. Boring, yes. Effective, also yes.
The key thing is this: do not let your slight enamourment convince you that you must be endlessly charming, understanding, or game about this. You do not owe a handsome nuisance extra tolerance. Quite the reverse. Beauty should be quiet after midnight.
And for the record, becoming Mr Heckles with a broomstick is a stage to avoid, not aspire to. Once you are striking the ceiling in a rage, the situation has already won.
Go and be polite. Then be firmer if needed. There is nothing unsexy about boundaries, and if he can’t cope with a neighbour asking for sleep, he is not nearly as interesting as his cheekbones suggest.
Yours, in defence of sleep and standards,
Joely
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Dear Joely: I’m Not a Drunk, But
A sceptical man writes to Joely wondering whether his drinking is becoming a problem, while doing his best not to sound like the sort of man who writes to advice columns. Joely is not fooled.
Dear Joely,
I’m not entirely sure why I’m writing to you, except that a friend of mine’s wife likes your column, which I imagine is about as glowing a recommendation as one can expect for an advice page.
In any case, I have a question, or possibly a problem, depending on how dramatic we’re being.
I think my drinking may be getting a bit out of hand. I say “may” because I’m still employed, still paying my bills, and not waking up in a hedge in Stevenage with one shoe missing. I’m not pouring vodka on my cornflakes, and I haven’t yet become the sort of man people speak about more quietly over Christmas lunch. So I do have some perspective.
That said, I’m drinking more often than I mean to, and more than I intend to once I’ve started. I’ve also begun waking up feeling woolly, thick-headed, and vaguely disgusted with myself more often than I’d like. A woman I was seeing recently told me she never knew which version of me she was going to get after a few drinks — the funny one, the moody one, or the one who suddenly wants to start an argument over absolutely nothing. I didn’t enjoy hearing that. Mainly because I think she may have been right.
So my question is this: at what point does “I should probably get a grip” become “this is an actual problem”? And before you say “go to AA” or “talk to your doctor,” I am aware those options exist. I’m asking whether you think this sounds like a genuine issue, or just a man in his fifties noticing that the body is no longer as forgiving as it once was.
You may well be the wrong person to ask, but I seem to have run out of the right ones.
Signed,
Woolly in Watford
Dear Woolly,
First, thank you for that stirring opening vote of confidence. “A friend of mine’s wife likes your column” is exactly the sort of endorsement every woman dreams of.
Men do so love to arrive at vulnerability wearing a fake moustache.
Now that we’ve both survived that, yes — I do think this sounds like an actual problem.
Not because you are waking up shoeless in a municipal shrubbery, but because your drinking is no longer behaving as a harmless supporting character in your life. It is changing your moods, your mornings, your relationships, and your own opinion of yourself. That is enough. You do not need to wait until you are pouring vodka on your cornflakes or being discussed in lowered tones over the Christmas potatoes before you are allowed to take it seriously.
Men in particular do seem to love the idea that a thing only counts once it has become catastrophic. Until then, it is merely “having a few,” “blowing off steam,” or “one of those patches.” This is often very convenient for them, and rarely for the people around them.
The woman who told you she never knew which version of you she was going to get did you a favour. Not a pleasant one, admittedly, but a favour all the same. If alcohol is making you unreliable to yourself and unpredictable to others, then I would stop fussing over whether the word “problem” feels too dramatic and begin with the plainer truth that something is not going well.
And yes, since you’ve pre-emptively rolled your eyes at the obvious advice, I’m afraid I’m going to be boring and sensible anyway. Start keeping proper count of how much you drink and when. Not your charming estimates — the real number. Then speak to your doctor, or a proper alcohol support service, or both. There is no medal for trying to out-stubborn a habit that is already beginning to cost you pieces of your life.
You ask whether this is a genuine issue or simply the body becoming less forgiving. I would suggest that if the body, your conscience, and at least one exasperated woman are all trying to tell you something at once, it may be worth listening.
And for the record, advice columns are not magic. They are simply one of the places people end up when denial has started springing a leak.
Yours, surprisingly sensibly,
Joely
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Dear Joely: The Bedroom Goes Quiet
A husband wonders whether a newly quiet bedroom is a passing phase, a private struggle, or a sign there may be someone else. Joely answers on silence, suspicion, and the limits of flowers as strategy.
Dear Joely,
My wife and I have been married just over four years. It is a second marriage for both of us. I’m 53, she’s 49, and until recently we’ve always had a very active sex life. That’s partly why I’m so thrown by the sudden change.
For the past few months, she always seems to have a reason not to. She’s tired. She’s stressed. She wants an early night. She’d rather read, scroll, or disappear into a game than come to bed in any meaningful sense of the phrase. She’s friendly enough, and not cold exactly, but there is a distracted quality to her now, as though I’m approaching her from slightly too far away.
I’ve tried not to make a big performance of it. I’ve been patient. I’ve made dinner, brought flowers, made an effort. She seems touched by those things, but not moved in the direction I’m hoping for. The more I try, the more I begin to feel like a man laying rose petals in front of a door that isn’t opening.
So now I’m wondering what I’m meant to think. Is this just a phase in a marriage and I’m being oversensitive, or should I be worried there’s someone else?
Signed,
Missing My Wife
Dear Missing,
The first thing to say is this: a drop in desire is not, by itself, proof of a third party lurking in the shrubbery.
People go off sex for all sorts of reasons. Fatigue, resentment, distraction, hormones, low mood, buried irritation, feeling unsexy in their own skin, or simply getting stuck in a pattern where avoidance becomes easier than explaining what is going on. The human libido is not a punctual little clerk. It wanders off, goes silent, and sometimes needs coaxing back under less pressure than flowers and hopeful dinners can create.
That said, you are not wrong to notice the change, and you are not shallow for missing your wife in this particular way. Sex is not the whole of a marriage, but neither is it nothing. When it goes quiet without explanation, people start telling themselves stories. Usually unpleasant ones.
Before you leap to infidelity, I would ask a duller but more useful question: have you actually spoken to her plainly, without the bouquet, without the seduction campaign, and without making the conversation sound like a charge sheet? Not “Why don’t you want me?” Not “Is there someone else?” But something closer to: “I miss you. Something feels different between us. Is anything going on that I’m not seeing?”
Because at the moment you are trying to solve a communication problem with romance, which is understandable but often ineffective. A woman can enjoy a lasagne and still not want to take her clothes off. The flowers are not the issue. The silence is.
If she brushes you off repeatedly, refuses to talk at all, and leaves you alone with your increasingly inventive theories, then yes, you may have more cause for concern. But don’t promote yourself to detective before you have first tried being a husband in a chair, asking a difficult question and waiting for the real answer.
There may be someone else. There may equally be stress, sadness, menopause, anger, boredom, or some private knot she hasn’t yet untangled into words. Your job for now is not to guess correctly. It is to open the conversation without accusation and see whether she meets you there.
You say she is friendly. I would aim for something more intimate than friendly. Friendly is for baristas and neighbours. Wives should, at the very least, be reachable.
Yours, with a steady hand,
Joely
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Dear Joely: An Inconvenient Crush
A reader in her late fifties finds herself blindsided by an all-too-lively crush and wonders whether desire has a dignified place later in life. Joely answers on longing, age, and not making a cathedral out of crumbs.
Dear Joely,
I am a woman in my late fifties and, until recently, believed myself to be beyond the age of behaving like a sixth-former with a biro and a pulse. Then I developed a crush.
It is not on a film star, which would at least be private and convenient. It is on a man I know in real life. He is charming, bright, entirely age-appropriate, and, maddeningly, just attentive enough to keep me flustered without doing anything so obvious that I can call the whole thing to heel.
Nothing has happened. He has not declared himself. I have not flung myself across a table. We are simply in that intolerable territory where eye contact begins to feel like an event and one finds oneself thinking far too hard about what to wear to somewhere that didn’t matter at all before he might be there.
Part of me feels thrilled to be capable of this sort of fizz at all. Another part feels faintly humiliated. I am too old, surely, to be mooning over a man like a girl in a ponytail. And yet I also resent the idea that desire should have an expiry date, as though one is meant to become a tasteful lampshade after a certain birthday.
So my question is this: should I enjoy the feeling for what it is and let it pass, or is there ever a dignified way to do something with a crush at my age?
Signed,
Unexpectedly Flustered
Dear Flustered,
First, let us bury the idea that desire is only attractive in the young. That is nonsense invented by people who prefer women to become decorative once they’ve learned a few things.
A crush in later life is not pathetic. It is inconvenient, certainly. Occasionally ridiculous. But also rather cheering. It reminds you that the shutters are not up, the blood still circulates, and your powers of anticipation have not been pensioned off to sit in a cardie by the fire.
The trouble with a crush is not the feeling itself. The trouble is what the feeling tempts you to do. It can turn an intelligent woman into an amateur codebreaker, forever analysing pauses, glances, and whether a man said “see you soon” with intent or merely manners.
So enjoy the quickening, by all means. Stand in front of the mirror a little longer. Feel your pulse misbehave. There are worse things. But do not build a cathedral out of crumbs. If he is interested, let him become clearer in ways that would be visible even to a woman who was not wearing your particular perfume and hoping for signs.
And if an opening genuinely presents itself, there is nothing undignified about warmth, wit, or a little well-judged boldness. The only thing I would avoid is tipping a whole bucket of fantasy over a situation that may yet amount to no more than pleasing chemistry and a decent jawline.
You are not too old for this. You are simply old enough to know the difference between delight and self-abandonment. Try to keep the first and avoid the second.
Yours, with eyebrows raised,
Joely