Dear Joely: The Case of the Wandering Toe

Dear Joely,

I am fortunate to live in one of the nicer areas of Sydney with my husband and our two young children. All is as well as can be in those departments.

We are very good friends with our neighbours across the street. They are a couple, about ten years older than us. Every month or so, the four of us get together for drinks and some food. We alternate between our houses as the venue.

We both have spas in our yards and, at the end of these evenings, we usually end up having a tub together, with more drinks and chats. We don’t wear clothes on these occasions. This isn’t for any racy reason. It just came about because none of us normally wears clothes when in our own spa, so we figured: why would we start on these social evenings?

Nothing is made of the nudity, and we all really enjoy chatting together in the warm tub under the stars.

All good so far, but the problem is this: the male neighbour has taken to touching me underwater with his toe.

I don’t mean an accidental touch. I mean he is putting his toe between my legs and looking for encouragement.

This is incredibly awkward for me. If I call it out when it’s happening, that’s the evening — and possibly future get-togethers — finished. Or he could deny it.

If I speak to the female neighbour about it alone — we are very close as friends — she might feel awkward or jealous, or not believe me.

I told my husband, and he seems more amused than anything.

I don’t want to encourage him in any way. I like things, apart from this problem, as they are.

I learned of your page from a different friend and thought — hoped — you might be able to help.

Yours

Unwanted Toe Attention

Dear Unwanted Toe Attention,

What a beautifully civilised arrangement you have created: good friends, warm water, drinks beneath the stars — and one man’s big toe attempting to start a separate social programme.

Let us clear up the only part that appears to be confusing anyone. Being naked in a spa is not an invitation to be touched. Your neighbour knows the difference between an accidental brush of the foot and deliberately placing his toe between your legs while watching to see what happens next.

This is not a rogue limb. He is conducting a small underwater feasibility study:

Will she react?
Will she say anything?
Might the toe be permitted to return?

The answer to the final question must be no.

You do not need to turn the evening into a neighbourhood emergency or suddenly announce, “Whose toe is that, and why is it there?”

Although it would settle the question rather efficiently.

The next time it happens, move away, look directly at him and say quietly:

“Please don’t do that again.”

No nervous laugh. No apology. No long explanation that allows him to pretend you have misunderstood the fascinating migratory habits of his foot.

If he denies it, simply say:

“Good. Then it won’t happen again.”

That is all you need.

I would not begin by speaking privately to his wife. He created the problem, and it should not be handed to the two women to manage between them over coffee. Speaking to her first also gives him the opportunity to deny it before you have ever addressed him directly.

Your husband’s amusement deserves a second conversation too. Tell him plainly that you are not flattered, entertained or secretly enjoying the attention. You feel uncomfortable and sexually intruded upon, and you need him to take that seriously. He does not have to storm across the street with a pool noodle unless that is what you want, but he does need to stop treating it as a saucy neighbourhood anecdote.

You are worried that objecting may spoil the evening or end future gatherings.

But darling, the evenings are already being spoiled. You are sitting in warm, bubbling water wondering whether a toe is about to make another covert border crossing while everyone discusses schools, renovations and interest rates above the surface.

That is no way to relax.

One calm, unmistakable boundary may be enough to return the foot to ordinary civilian life. Should it happen again, I would retire the shared spa evenings altogether. Not because nudity caused the problem, but because one guest has shown that he cannot be trusted with the arrangement.

Warm water, cold drinks and neighbourly nudity can coexist perfectly well.

They simply require all four adults — and all forty toes — to behave themselves.

Yours, with both feet firmly where they belong,

Joely

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Dear Joely: My Friends Stopped Inviting Me Out Since I Got Engaged

Dear Joely,

I stumbled on your page. I hope you can help.

I’m 26. Rather than tell you loads of boring story about how I got where I am, I’ll try and make it as easy as I can.

I’ve just finished my degree in nursing. Apart from all the study and exams, I had a wonderful time. I had lots of friends around me and a fantastic social life.

I met a fantastic guy on one of our great nights out. He and I just got closer and closer, and we’re now engaged and living together. I’m happy with that, but it feels like my friends have left me behind.

I don’t usually get texted now when they’re going out as a group. I find out about it afterwards, and it really hurts. They just say, “Oh, you’re always busy.”

We used to do everything together. There was a really close group. Now it’s like we can talk, but it’s really basic chat. Nobody bothers going into what’s really going on with them — well, with me anyway.

I miss talking properly to my friends, and while I’m happy with my fiancé, I feel really excluded even though I’ve done nothing wrong. It’s starting to affect my relationship with my fiancé a bit because I’m down in the dumps a lot of the time.

Sorry, this is a bit mixed up.

Sad and Left Behind

Dear Sad and Left Behind,

First of all, congratulations on finishing your nursing degree. That is not a small thing. That is a very large thing involving caffeine, panic, shoes that hurt, and possibly a relationship with laminated notes that became too intimate.

And congratulations on the fiancé too. A good one, I hope. One who knows how to make tea, apologise properly, and not say “calm down” unless he has a death wish.

Now to the sore bit.

I don’t think you’ve done anything wrong. But I do think something has changed, and everyone is pretending it hasn’t.

Groups are funny creatures. At university, friendship can feel effortless because everyone is in the same stream. Same deadlines, same nights out, same shared exhaustion, same cheap wine, same tiny dramas given Shakespearean importance at 2 a.m.

Then someone graduates. Someone gets engaged. Someone starts shift work. Someone moves in with a partner. Suddenly the stream divides, and people often handle that very badly. Instead of saying, “We miss you, but we don’t know how to fit you in now,” they say, “Oh, you’re always busy.”

That line hurts because it makes their exclusion sound like your fault.

But here is the awkward little truth: they may not be deliberately leaving you out. They may have made a lazy assumption that engaged-you is no longer available in the same way single-student-you was. They may think they’re being considerate. Or they may be avoiding the slightly uncomfortable feeling that the group is changing and nobody knows what to do with that.

The first thing I’d do is stop waiting for the group to magically remember you. Pick one friend — the kindest one, not necessarily the loudest one — and say something plain.

Not dramatic. Not accusatory. Just honest.

Try:

“I know life has changed a bit since I moved in with him, but I really miss you all. I’ve noticed I’m not being included as much, and it’s hurt more than I wanted to admit. I still want to be part of things.”

Then be specific. Suggest a night. Suggest coffee. Suggest drinks after work. Don’t just say, “We should catch up,” because that phrase has sent more friendships to the grave than almost anything else.

Also, make sure you are not accidentally waiting to be invited while giving off the signal that your fiancé is now your whole social life. That happens more easily than people think. Love is wonderful, but it can become a very comfortable little cave, and sometimes our friends stop knocking because they think we’ve moved in permanently with the candles and the throw rugs.

This does not mean your fiancé has done anything wrong. But it is worth being careful not to make him responsible for filling every emotional gap your friends have left. That’s too much pressure on a relationship, especially a young engaged one. He can love you beautifully and still not be a group of girlfriends.

So build both things: your relationship and your friendships. They need different rooms in your life.

And if you do reach out clearly, and they still keep excluding you? Then you will have your answer. Painful, yes, but useful. Some friendships are for a season, and some survive the awkward transition into adult life. The ones worth keeping will make space for the fuller version of you — nurse, fiancée, friend, tired human, all of it.

You haven’t been left behind because you moved forward.

But you may need to turn around, wave your arms a little, and say, “I’m still here, you idiots.”

With sympathy, and a firm vote for one proper girls’ night very soon,

Joely

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Dear Joely: I Said the Cruel Thing Out Loud at Dinner

Dear Joely,

I think I may have ruined a friendship over dinner.

A group of us were at a friend’s house on Saturday night — eight or nine people around the table, wine, food, everyone talking over each other in that way that feels fun at the time and unbearable when you remember it later.

One of my closest friends started talking about her ex again. They split up nearly a year ago, but he still comes up constantly. I have listened to hours of it. I really have tried to be kind. I know people don’t just stop hurting because their friends are bored of the subject.

But I’d had too much to drink, and when she started going over the same old ground, I said something like, “I don’t think you miss him anymore. I think you miss having him to talk about.”

The table went quiet.

She looked absolutely wounded. I tried to laugh it off, then tried to explain, which probably made it worse. The rest of the night carried on, but not really. You know when everyone is pretending things are normal and they absolutely aren’t?

I went home feeling embarrassed, but it wasn’t until 4:17 in the morning that the full horror hit me. I woke up wide awake thinking, What did I say? Why did I say it in front of everyone?

The awful thing is, I don’t know if I was completely wrong. Part of me does think she’s become attached to the drama of it. But I also know I was cruel. I could have said something privately, soberly, gently — or just kept my mouth shut.

She hasn’t replied to my message today.

Do I apologise properly, or will that just make it all bigger? And am I a terrible friend for being so tired of hearing about someone else’s heartbreak?

Still Cringing at 4:17am

Dear Still Cringing,

First of all, congratulations on discovering one of adulthood’s least glamorous truths: sometimes the thing that should have stayed inside your head comes out wearing a dinner-party voice.

Was it cruel? Yes, a bit.

Was it unforgivable? No.

Was it possibly true? Also yes, which is why it landed with such a thud.

That’s the trouble with drunken honesty. It often contains just enough truth to be dangerous, and nowhere near enough kindness to be useful. You didn’t say, “I’m worried you’re still hurting and I don’t know how to help.” You said, in effect, “I’m tired of your pain and I think you may be enjoying it.” At a table. In front of witnesses. With wine assisting the prosecution.

So yes, you owe her an apology.

Not a long, self-flagellating performance. Not a twenty-seven-message essay about your motives, your exhaustion, your guilt and the exact time your soul sat bolt upright in bed. She doesn’t need to manage your remorse as well as her humiliation.

Send something simple:

I’m really sorry for what I said at dinner. It was hurtful, and saying it in front of everyone made it worse. I had no right to embarrass you like that. I care about you, and I’m sorry.

That’s it. No “but.” No “I was just trying to say.” No “you have to admit.” No courtroom reconstruction.

The apology is for the way you said it, where you said it, and what it did to her.

Later — much later, if the friendship recovers and she invites real conversation — there may be room for the truth underneath it: that you love her, but you cannot be the permanent storage facility for one man’s emotional debris. Friends are allowed to have limits. Even kind friends. Even loyal friends. Even friends who have sat through every chapter of the breakup, including the director’s commentary.

But timing matters.

If someone is bleeding, you don’t start by saying, “To be fair, this carpet has suffered enough.”

For now, apologise cleanly. Give her space. Let her decide whether she wants to answer.

And no, you are not a terrible friend for being tired. You are a tired friend who said the tired part out loud, badly, after wine, under domestic lighting.

That is not a life sentence. It is a repair job.

Next time, if the same conversation starts circling the drain, try the sober version:

I love you, and I want to support you, but I think we might be stuck in the same loop. Can we talk about what would actually help you now?

Less dramatic than a dinner-table truth bomb, admittedly. But much kinder to the crockery.

With sympathy, and a glass of water before bed,

Joely

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Dear Joely: I Kissed My Best Friend’s Boyfriend. What Now?

Dear Joely,

I hope you can answer me quickly. I’ve stuffed up. Badly.

I’m in my late teens. I’m lucky enough to have a best friend that I can share everything with. And she shares everything with me too. We both live with our parents still.

She has a new boyfriend — let’s call him Ross. She’s fancied him for a long time, and they finally got together.

She had a party at her parents’ place for her 18th. I was there, of course, and so was Ross. It was a fun party. Lots of booze, chips and party food — like a kid’s party but more fun because we’re all older and can legally do all the stuff we’ve always wondered about.

I was walking up the side of the house when I saw Ross. He saw me too. We looked at each other and before I knew what was happening we were having a passionate pash under a nearby tree.

Then of course my friend wandered out and saw us.

Personally, I don’t know why I did it. There were certainly no plans to do anything with Ross — I always just thought of him as her guy. This was a real spur-of-the-moment fuck-up.

My friend was so cool about it. I apologised, but her eyes are saying, “I love you but why would you do this to me?”

I have no answers and feel nothing but deep shame. I don’t want to carry on seeing Ross or anything.

What should I do?

A Really Crappy Friend

Dear Really Crappy Friend,

First things first: yes, you stuffed up.

There’s no elegant way to put lipstick on that particular pig. You kissed your friend’s boyfriend at her own eighteenth birthday party, which is very much not the behaviour of the bridesmaid in a feel-good film.

But — and this is important — one dreadful, stupid, impulsive thing does not have to become the permanent title of your character.

You already know the kiss was wrong. That’s good. Shame, unpleasant though it is, can occasionally do useful work. It tells us where the line was, and that we crossed it. The trick is not to pitch a tent in the shame and start calling it home.

What you do now is simple, but not easy.

You apologise properly. Not dramatically. Not with self-pity. Not with a long speech about how terrible you feel, because then she ends up having to comfort you, which is just adding unpaid emotional admin to her birthday betrayal.

Say something like:

“I am so sorry. What I did was wrong and it hurt you. I don’t have an excuse, and I’m not going to insult you by pretending I do. I care about you, and I understand if you need space from me.”

Then stop talking.

Let her be angry. Let her be quiet. Let her ask questions. Let her not ask questions. Do not chase forgiveness like it’s a bus you’re late for.

As for Ross, avoid him. Completely. No private messages. No “clearing the air.” No sad little conversations under trees about how confused everyone is. The tree has already done enough.

If he contacts you, keep it short:

“What happened was wrong. I’m not continuing this. You need to speak honestly with her.”

And then back away.

Your friend’s eyes are asking, “Why would you do this to me?” The truthful answer may simply be: because you were drunk, flattered, impulsive, curious, reckless, and briefly more interested in being wanted than being loyal.

That is not pretty, but it is human.

The repair, if there is one, will come from consistency. Not one perfect apology. Not tears. Not grand gestures. Consistency.

Be honest. Give her space. Don’t touch Ross. Don’t recruit mutual friends to plead your case. Don’t make yourself the victim of your own guilt.

You may lose some closeness for a while. You may lose the friendship. That is the price of the moment, and you have to respect it.

But you can also learn from it.

Next time desire, alcohol and opportunity gather under a tree, remember: trees are for shade, not betrayal.

With sympathy, but not a party invitation,

Joely

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Dear Joely: Exit Group?

Dear Joely,

I’ve been added to a school WhatsApp group and I already hate it.

I know it’s meant to be useful, and sometimes it is, but most of the time it’s just endless messages about things that don’t seem to require that many messages. Every day there’s somebody asking something that has already been answered, or reminding everyone about something, or sending a stream of updates about snacks, costumes, pick-up times, forms, or who’s bringing what.

What gets me is that I can’t tell whether I’m being unreasonable or whether everyone else is just pretending this is normal. Some of the women in it seem to live there. They’re constantly replying, offering to do things, thanking each other, sending little kisses at the end of every message, and somehow making quite ordinary school admin feel like a full-time emotional ecosystem. I find it exhausting.

There’s also a certain tone in there that gets under my skin. It’s all very friendly on the surface, but I can never quite shake the feeling that there’s competition and judgement bubbling away underneath. I don’t want to be rude, and I don’t want to look unfriendly, but I also don’t want to spend my life reading forty-three messages about a missing drink bottle.

Is it acceptable to mute it, ignore most of it, or even leave altogether, or is that social suicide?

Signed,

One Ping from Murder

Dear One Ping,

The first thing I want you to know is that you are not oversensitive. You are having an entirely normal reaction to being trapped in a digital village square with no closing time.

WhatsApp groups of this sort are a very modern species of suffering. They begin in usefulness and end in low-grade occupation. A quick note about sports day becomes a hundred and forty-seven messages, three theories, one volunteer spreadsheet, and an undercurrent of feminine territorial warfare thinly disguised as helpfulness.

You are not obliged to enjoy this simply because it involves children and snack-sized administrative duties. Nor are you required to mistake access for intimacy. These groups create the illusion that because people can reach you instantly, they are therefore entitled to do so constantly. They are not.

Now, as to what to do. I would not dramatically leave unless you are genuinely prepared to be talked about by women in activewear for a fortnight. The elegant answer is almost always the less theatrical one. Mute the group. Archive it if necessary. Turn off previews. Remove it from the front of your mind and let the urgent things surface by other means, as truly urgent things usually do.

And if someone asks why you are a little quiet, you may say, perfectly pleasantly, that you are trying to spend less time on your phone. This has the additional advantage of sounding virtuous while being entirely self-protective.

What you must not do is get drawn into the false morality of constant responsiveness. There is a particular kind of social nonsense that thrives on women feeling they must always appear agreeable, available, and faintly delighted to help. It is a racket. Step outside it where you can.

You do not need to surrender your peace over a visor, a raffle roster, or twelve messages about whether Friday is mufti. Keep your manners, keep your distance, and keep the group on mute.

Yours, on mute,

Joely

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